Don T Pass Craps System
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*What Is Don’t Pass In Craps
*Best Don’t Pass Craps System
Don’t Pass + Don’t Come. This is a conservative system that will give you a sense of confidence and minimize your financial risks. Initially, you need to make your craps don’t pass bet – and after the point has been set, you should lay full double odds against it. The next step is to make a don’t come bet, and when the point is set. At that point the system is simple. You bet two times in a row (at any $$ level you are comfortable with) following the pass and four times in a row for the don’t pass — rotating as the dice require.
How to Bet on Don’t Pass. Simply place your wager in the area of the craps table highlighted below in orange: A bet on Don’t Pass looks like this: When to Bet on Don’t Pass. The way a bet is placed on Don’t Pass is very similar to the way it is played on the Pass Line. Bets can only be placed on Don’t Pass before the first roll of a turn. Craps System Database. Mix of both methods.Listed below are mostly Craps Pit visitor submitted systems*.
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Visit the CRAPS PIT BOOK STORE !3-Point Molly Don’t(don’t pass bet & 2 don’t come bets) -if it’s a 4 or 10, lay 2x odds -if it’s a 6 or 8 do not lay odds -follow with a don’t come until you have 3 points working for you. -if a point is lost, make another don’t come (keeping 3 points up at all times) I’ve been running this approach with a $200 bankroll, using $10 bets. once at $400, I increase my initial bets to $20. Once I reach $800, I pull back $200 (leaving me with $600) & repeat the approach to $800, pulling back $200 every time I’m in the neighborhood of $800. if you want to get aggressive, increase your initial bet to $50 once you reach $1000. This is less aggressive than my 3-point molly (do) approach, but it has been far more effective in practice.
Justin
There are times when you know it’s a cold table and you want to make don’t come bets. You do so, but the shooter always seems to throw an early seven. You lose the first DC or a push results on your second DC. When that happens I start to bet the following way.
I wait three rolls before making any DC bets. This gets you past the early seven. Just make two DC bets.
If your first DC is a 4 or 10, lay odds and don’t make anymore bets.
starchip@live.com After the shooters 5th roll lay the 4 for $40 (again the number is optional.) You can win 2 ways with this; if the shooter makes his point you can still win on the next come out if he throws a 7.
shooter571@yahoo.com
This method uses flat bets with no added odds, except on the don’t pass when you are making a don’t come bet.
Here’s how it works. You put $5 on the don’t pass line, and the point is 6. You lay $5 on the odds and place $5 in the don’t come box. If the next roll is a 7, you would lose the $5 don’t come, but win $10 on the don’t pass. A profit of $5. The next roll is 10. You now have $5 plus $5 odds on the don’t pass and $5 on the don’t come 10. You would now remove the odds bet on the don’t pass.
By adding the odds bet to the don’t pass when making a don’t come bet, you are insuring a win if a 7 is thrown, instead of just breaking even.
Reprinted from an article in Chance magazine, with permission from the author, Larry Edell. Visit his site at Thecrapshooter.comBet only on Come out roll, bet Wrong. Bet on # 10 and after the come out roll remove your bet.
If 7 comes you win. You lose only if 10 comes. He will give you 50 for 100.
Or you may bet like this- 100 each on 4 and 10 Or 100 only on 4 OR 10.
If 4 or 10 comes you lose 100 but bet again Wrong that -the same # will not repeat.
Say you bet Wrong on 4 and 10 for 100 each (lay bets) on Come out roll.
4 came. you lose 100, then move 100 from 10 to 4 now and you may increase your bet to 200. If he does not roll 4 again you will get your lost 100. If he rolls 4 we will lose 200 now and total loss of 300.
Then restart.
We will have to win 3 times for 2 consecutive losses.
Variation-
Bet 100 on 10, if he rolls 10 then don’t bet again, wait until he is done with the roll.
Bet on the next shooter. Come out roll only then remove the bet. Works best on cold tables. I wait for the current shooter to seven-out, then I place a don’t pass bet. If I lose, then I chase the bet. If the current shooter gets me again, I chase one more time at 2.5 times the original bet. e.g. I bet $5.lose, bet $10..lose, bet$15..if he doesn’t 7 out by the third bet, I wait him out, and start over. Most casinos I’ve been to, the players rarely hold the dice to three point or instant winners. I consistently get ahead 10-30% before the inevitable trend and vig turn the tides against me. Maybe someone else will verify my results.mailto:dunceputz1@aol.comI will call myself the dark sider for obvious reasons;
Answer these simple questions first.
1. What’s the most powerful number on the table!
2. What number has the most probability to come out the most!
3. What number does the casino have on their side which enable them to make huge profits! SO WHY NOT YOU USE IT!!! MOST PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS DO!
HERE’S MY SYSTEM
1ST- $40 LAY ON THE 4 OR 10 (1.00 vig.) WHICH EVER THE table DOESN’T FAVOR and $20 don’t pass. A $1 yo will also hedge the dp. Bet if the 11 is rolled. The lay bet lets you bypass the seven on the come out roll.
2ND- Once the point has been established take the lay bet down and put $34 inside (5,6,&8) no matter what the point is and a $5 field bet. That’s $59 action on the table at risk.
3RD- You will win on the next roll; if it’s a 5, 6 or 8 take it down. It will lock up a profit when you 7 out.
If it’s a field number just keep making those bets. From this point on, you must play with the 3 f’s (feel, finesse and fortitude) sense and knowledge is a must.
With this system you win on cold and choppy tables and also take advantage of hot rolls because you can always press those place bet or go up a unit on them. Get to the table your on.{ I have documents from casino’s for tax purposes of my winning from 1996 to now.} If you have any questions you can e- mail me at garvinr@sps.springfield.ma.us or buddyrich@aol.com I guess this would be considered a don’t system, but a safe one none the less. The seven is the most likely number to be thrown, so you might as well use it to your advantage. Bypass the pass line bet, and wait for shooter to throw a point. Now place a $25 don’t come, and hedge with a $5 any 7, a $2 yo, and a $2 12. (if you have the bank roll, make it a $50 dc, $10 any seven, $4 11, and $4 12) If 2 or 3 is thrown, win $25 on the dc, lose any 7, yo, and 12 ($5 +$2 +$2) for a total winning of $16 ($25-$9). If 7 is thrown, win on the any 7 for $20, lose the dc, yo, and 12 ($25 + $2 + $2), for a total loss of $9 ($20 - $29). If a twelve is thrown, win $60, the dc is a push, and lose on the any 7 and yo-eleven ($5 + $2), for total winning of $53 ($60 - $7). If any other number is thrown (4,5,6,8,9,10), you lose a total of $9 on the one-roll bets, but you have a $25 dc working. If you $25 don’t come bet moves to an even number, say for example the 4, take a $2 hard four. This way, if the shooter throws the hard four you lose $25 on the dc but collect $14 on the hard four, so it softens the blow. If the shooter throws an easy four then you lose both bets, but that’s why its called gambling! Now wait for shooter to seven out and collect on the dc. If the shooter is hot or throwing a lot of numbers, take some place bets or pass line with odds and stop betting the don’t come on that particular shooter. This system will allow you to consistently collect decent sized winnings on a cold or choppy table and still enables you to take advantage of a hot roll. You want to bet against a shooter making 4 consecutive passes.
You use the following progression: 10, 20, 40, 80
For example. You bet $10 on the don’t pass. The shooter makes the point, you lose $10 and for the next point you bet $20 on the don’t pass. The shooter doesn’t make the point and you win $20. $10 profit on this shooter.
If you go up to and lose the $80 bet, stop making bets and wait for the next shooter.
Maintain your bet level when and for as long as you win. Example: You win your don’t bet at the $40 level. You keep betting at this level until you lose. Start the progression over at $10 or if you are doing well, just drop down one level and start betting from there.
You can change this system to Don’t by 3 and adjust the bet amount to what you are comfortable with.24/7 solitaire card games free. First I look for a table where a player is making a don’t come bet and then they take it down off the number that was rolled. Then I ask that player if I can pay him the amount of the bet he is taking down. This way I don’t have to worry about losing the bet in the don’t come box before it gets established. The house has an 8 to 3 edge over me when I have money in the don’t come box, but once the DC is established I have the edge. 6 to 5 on the 6 & 8, 3 to 2 on the 5 & 9 and a big 2 to 1 on the 4 & 10.
I’ve had great success by playing this way. The only bad thing about playing this way is it takes time to win a small amount of money. But it’s the only way to have a little edge over the casino. KANIVATANAKUL@YAHOO.COM Lv slots login. Here is a variation and/or combination of a couple of strategies I think I saw on this site.
Lay bet the 4 and 10 for $30 each and make a $30 don’t pass bet and $2 on the yo.
Be sure the lay bets are working on the come out.
If the roll is:
2 - you win the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
3 - you win the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
12 - a push for the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
7 - win the no 4 and no 10, lose the yo, and lose the don’t pass bet.
4 or 10 - four/ ten becomes the point and you lose the no 4/ 10 bet and the yo. Now, remove the remaining no 4/ 10 bet and take full odds on the don’t pass bet and wait for the seven.
5 thru 9 - If five, six, eight, or nine become the point you remove the no 4 and no 10 and place the five for $10, the six for $12, the eight for $12, and the field for $5, for one roll only then take down the place bets and make a $30 place bet on the point number if it has not yet been hit.
Example 1:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30 each plus the ’vig’.
$30 don’t pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 4. Lose the no 4 bet and the yo. 4 is the point.
Remove the no 10 bet and place full odds on the don’t pass bet and hope for a seven.
Example 2:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30.
$30 on the don’t pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 6. Six becomes the point. You lose the yo. Now remove the no 4 and no 10 bets and place bet the 5 for $10, the 6 for $12, the 8 for $12 and the field for $5. After one roll remove the place bets and place the remaining point number for $30. You will then have a $30 don’t pass on the six and a $30 place bet on the six, a bet that can’t be lost.
DonnieWhat Is Don’t Pass In CrapsI will share a play that is about the best way you can play it and it is against all books and advise of play, as you always advised to add odds, here you only add odds to replace losses.
Rules to follow:
1. Table should be 10x’s odds or better, the higher the better. 5x’s can work but gets hairy.
2. Have your bankroll in chips, recommended $5,000.
3: Doey/don’t bet with lowest amount allowed, take double odds as if $5 bet.
4: Make 10 dc bet for first bet, increase by 5 each dc bet, except on 11-4-10-or point. If crap 2-3 leave up for double bet no add of 5.
5: If point hit, replace with same amount you had in odds on pass line.
6: Make same doey,don’t bet and same double odds bet.
7: You start adding double odds on bets after the green chip is on that number as if it was a $5 bet, on second hit you increase to three times odds and 5 times if hit again, using small martingale, you would have to keep increasing our odds.
8: At $50 dc bet you would increase at $10 each dc bet. Try it and if you have any questions I would be glad to answer them.
9: You also must control the game with the boxman, if you do not have your bets down, yell out to hold up the dice, ’I have not got my bets down yet’, as you can’t do anything until dealer pays off last result. Believe me this is important, as you can lose some important replacements.
Have fun. Its hard to do on wincraps as it takes off the bet before you can see what you had on it, at the crap table you have enough time to see it. I use beat the house the older version, not the real old one though as that only 2x’s odds. One more thing, on a real long roll and if you had a higher bankroll to start you would have to make a 100 do and 100 don’t and $4 12 to get the odds. You might need mostly on a 5x’s table, 100 never and 20 prob never but could happen on 10x’s table. What’s good about this is that you are only loaning out the money and when a 7 shows, which it will , it all come back.
LOUDon’t Pass
Here’s my method of play:
Go to a table with very few people (looking for a cold table).
Make a DP bet then lay single odds. Keep betting on that shooter until he:
a) makes his point 2 times without throwing any naturals (7 or 11)
b) or rolls a natural, followed by any combination of 2 more naturals or 2 more points (for a total of 3 losses).
The idea is to stop betting on a shooter wants he starts beating you, then wait for the next shooter.
I use $5 base bets. Once I’ve won over $30, I increase my bets. If I lose $50, I leave or switch tables.
I’ve had great success with this method of play.
Comments are welcome.
Unknown contributorMy buddy and I have been playing a don’t pass martingale and been doing very well.
It is so simple to do this, the first time my buddy gets the dice I place a $5 DP if he beats me I’m done with him until he finishes that roll, then when the dice come back around to him for the 2nd time that day i simply place a $10 DP, if he beats me, I wait for him to finish that role, then when he gets the dice for the 3rd time that day I place a $20 DP.
I do this progression till I clear all previous bets plus a $5 winner then start over.
I’ve never been past the 6TH level, I will go 8 levels if necessary so it takes $1280 bankroll. the bets are as follows: $5, $10, $20, $40, $80, $160, $320, $640 Most people don’t have the patients to play this, But I do !!!!!
The key to this, that you can’t put a math equation to the human factor that every shooter will have some great rolls and maybe make 8 or 9 passes on that one hot shoot, but to make a one pass eight different times you get the dice, PLEASE, PLEASE !!!!! I’ve never seen it done.
I’ve got 3 other buddies that go to the casino with us once in awhile and they have not been able to run me out of eight levels either.
Everybody has a few good rolls and maybe one great roll then they have those set the point and 7 OUT and I’m in HEAVEN cause I’VE cleared and LIFE is GREAT.
I’ve read several books about the martingale and they hate it, but they play consecutive rolls and I’ve seen 14 passes by the same shooter then the next time he got the dice GUESS what ?? SET the point 7 OUT HA-HA-HA I clear and start over.
The main key to this is having a team of buddies who will not leave the table till everyone is cleared.
You can’t play the guy down at the end of the table in the red hat because he might beat you 2 or 3 times then leave the table so you have no chance to clear the bet on him.
GOOD LUCK TED
P.S. I don’t need LUCK with this style of play just the human factor or dynamics of the game as I call it.
This is probably the fastest way to work a progressive/regressive system.
On the first shooter you would bet $25 on the don’t pass with a $50 no 4 or no 10.
If the shooter throws a 7 on the come out, you lose the DP but win the lay bet. The lay bet is your hedge and acts as odds for your DP.
If he makes the point before a 7 out, you lose your DP but still have the lay bet working.
If he sevens out early, you win both bets.
2nd player, $30 on DP, $60 on no 4. Same idea.
3rd player, $40 on DP, $80 on no 4.
4th player, go back to the beginning and start again.
If you win 2 series like this, start your 3rd with a $30 DP and a $60 no 4, then a $40 DP and a $80 no 4, and finally a $50 DP and a $100 no 4.
Some casinos won’t allow a $50 no 4 or 10. You may have to put down $40 or $60.
There are many good ’ladder’ systems for the pass side using place bets, but for most of them to work and show a consistent profit throughout a session, each player would have to hold the dice a minimum of 15 minutes. It’s not going to happen.
You can hedge further by using Larry Freiwald’s Super Seven Parlay or make an E.T. bet.
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This is a variation on GRAFSTEINS. Wait for the shooter to make 3 to 5 tosses then LAY a number but never the 4 or 10 .They have a habit of showing up on cold tables along with a lot of other crap. Then make a DC bet. This can be reversed make the DC 1st then the LAY. After the point is set place any 2 box numbers based on most seen repeaters. Give the shooter 3 to 5 tosses take down your place bets and start your LAY BET/DC action. I have averaged $150. to $400. a day using these 2 methods starting with a $500. buy in. You have to be attuned to the game and get a feel for the table to be able to decide when to up your LAY BET/DC bet amounts so don’t just dive in. Always at a table with dealers waiting for shooters. Open the table yourself and shoot for as long as you are the only player. When others join the game pass the dice I no longer shoot with other players at the table. Anyone who has a basic understanding of the game, already is well versed in the true odds of any number being thrown and knows that short term streaks happen all the time. But the astute “don’t side” gambler also does not worry about the short term streaks and knows that in time that the roll frequencies will fall in line with the “laws of probability” that the game is based upon. This approach to winning at craps relies on that probability and will work if patience and discipline is utilized a very high percentage of the time.
The object of this approach is to win $100 per shooter.
All bets will be on the “Don’t Pass Line”.
Each shooter will be given 4 chances against your bet.
A series of bets will be made per shooter starting with a $100 don’t pass bet. If you lose it, then you increase the bet to $200. If that loses, then to $400 and finally to $800. If at any point you win any of these bets, then you will have won all your losses back plus $100 and you begin again with the next shooter. Also included in this series is the fact that the come out roll gives the shooter a chance to win automatically by throwing a seven, (6 ways) or a 11, (2 ways) with only a 2, (1 way) and a 3, (2 ways), that wil
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*What Is Don’t Pass In Craps
*Best Don’t Pass Craps System
Don’t Pass + Don’t Come. This is a conservative system that will give you a sense of confidence and minimize your financial risks. Initially, you need to make your craps don’t pass bet – and after the point has been set, you should lay full double odds against it. The next step is to make a don’t come bet, and when the point is set. At that point the system is simple. You bet two times in a row (at any $$ level you are comfortable with) following the pass and four times in a row for the don’t pass — rotating as the dice require.
How to Bet on Don’t Pass. Simply place your wager in the area of the craps table highlighted below in orange: A bet on Don’t Pass looks like this: When to Bet on Don’t Pass. The way a bet is placed on Don’t Pass is very similar to the way it is played on the Pass Line. Bets can only be placed on Don’t Pass before the first roll of a turn. Craps System Database. Mix of both methods.Listed below are mostly Craps Pit visitor submitted systems*.
Have your system added to the list by e-mailing me at starchip@live.com
Visit the CRAPS PIT BOOK STORE !3-Point Molly Don’t(don’t pass bet & 2 don’t come bets) -if it’s a 4 or 10, lay 2x odds -if it’s a 6 or 8 do not lay odds -follow with a don’t come until you have 3 points working for you. -if a point is lost, make another don’t come (keeping 3 points up at all times) I’ve been running this approach with a $200 bankroll, using $10 bets. once at $400, I increase my initial bets to $20. Once I reach $800, I pull back $200 (leaving me with $600) & repeat the approach to $800, pulling back $200 every time I’m in the neighborhood of $800. if you want to get aggressive, increase your initial bet to $50 once you reach $1000. This is less aggressive than my 3-point molly (do) approach, but it has been far more effective in practice.
Justin
There are times when you know it’s a cold table and you want to make don’t come bets. You do so, but the shooter always seems to throw an early seven. You lose the first DC or a push results on your second DC. When that happens I start to bet the following way.
I wait three rolls before making any DC bets. This gets you past the early seven. Just make two DC bets.
If your first DC is a 4 or 10, lay odds and don’t make anymore bets.
starchip@live.com After the shooters 5th roll lay the 4 for $40 (again the number is optional.) You can win 2 ways with this; if the shooter makes his point you can still win on the next come out if he throws a 7.
shooter571@yahoo.com
This method uses flat bets with no added odds, except on the don’t pass when you are making a don’t come bet.
Here’s how it works. You put $5 on the don’t pass line, and the point is 6. You lay $5 on the odds and place $5 in the don’t come box. If the next roll is a 7, you would lose the $5 don’t come, but win $10 on the don’t pass. A profit of $5. The next roll is 10. You now have $5 plus $5 odds on the don’t pass and $5 on the don’t come 10. You would now remove the odds bet on the don’t pass.
By adding the odds bet to the don’t pass when making a don’t come bet, you are insuring a win if a 7 is thrown, instead of just breaking even.
Reprinted from an article in Chance magazine, with permission from the author, Larry Edell. Visit his site at Thecrapshooter.comBet only on Come out roll, bet Wrong. Bet on # 10 and after the come out roll remove your bet.
If 7 comes you win. You lose only if 10 comes. He will give you 50 for 100.
Or you may bet like this- 100 each on 4 and 10 Or 100 only on 4 OR 10.
If 4 or 10 comes you lose 100 but bet again Wrong that -the same # will not repeat.
Say you bet Wrong on 4 and 10 for 100 each (lay bets) on Come out roll.
4 came. you lose 100, then move 100 from 10 to 4 now and you may increase your bet to 200. If he does not roll 4 again you will get your lost 100. If he rolls 4 we will lose 200 now and total loss of 300.
Then restart.
We will have to win 3 times for 2 consecutive losses.
Variation-
Bet 100 on 10, if he rolls 10 then don’t bet again, wait until he is done with the roll.
Bet on the next shooter. Come out roll only then remove the bet. Works best on cold tables. I wait for the current shooter to seven-out, then I place a don’t pass bet. If I lose, then I chase the bet. If the current shooter gets me again, I chase one more time at 2.5 times the original bet. e.g. I bet $5.lose, bet $10..lose, bet$15..if he doesn’t 7 out by the third bet, I wait him out, and start over. Most casinos I’ve been to, the players rarely hold the dice to three point or instant winners. I consistently get ahead 10-30% before the inevitable trend and vig turn the tides against me. Maybe someone else will verify my results.mailto:dunceputz1@aol.comI will call myself the dark sider for obvious reasons;
Answer these simple questions first.
1. What’s the most powerful number on the table!
2. What number has the most probability to come out the most!
3. What number does the casino have on their side which enable them to make huge profits! SO WHY NOT YOU USE IT!!! MOST PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS DO!
HERE’S MY SYSTEM
1ST- $40 LAY ON THE 4 OR 10 (1.00 vig.) WHICH EVER THE table DOESN’T FAVOR and $20 don’t pass. A $1 yo will also hedge the dp. Bet if the 11 is rolled. The lay bet lets you bypass the seven on the come out roll.
2ND- Once the point has been established take the lay bet down and put $34 inside (5,6,&8) no matter what the point is and a $5 field bet. That’s $59 action on the table at risk.
3RD- You will win on the next roll; if it’s a 5, 6 or 8 take it down. It will lock up a profit when you 7 out.
If it’s a field number just keep making those bets. From this point on, you must play with the 3 f’s (feel, finesse and fortitude) sense and knowledge is a must.
With this system you win on cold and choppy tables and also take advantage of hot rolls because you can always press those place bet or go up a unit on them. Get to the table your on.{ I have documents from casino’s for tax purposes of my winning from 1996 to now.} If you have any questions you can e- mail me at garvinr@sps.springfield.ma.us or buddyrich@aol.com I guess this would be considered a don’t system, but a safe one none the less. The seven is the most likely number to be thrown, so you might as well use it to your advantage. Bypass the pass line bet, and wait for shooter to throw a point. Now place a $25 don’t come, and hedge with a $5 any 7, a $2 yo, and a $2 12. (if you have the bank roll, make it a $50 dc, $10 any seven, $4 11, and $4 12) If 2 or 3 is thrown, win $25 on the dc, lose any 7, yo, and 12 ($5 +$2 +$2) for a total winning of $16 ($25-$9). If 7 is thrown, win on the any 7 for $20, lose the dc, yo, and 12 ($25 + $2 + $2), for a total loss of $9 ($20 - $29). If a twelve is thrown, win $60, the dc is a push, and lose on the any 7 and yo-eleven ($5 + $2), for total winning of $53 ($60 - $7). If any other number is thrown (4,5,6,8,9,10), you lose a total of $9 on the one-roll bets, but you have a $25 dc working. If you $25 don’t come bet moves to an even number, say for example the 4, take a $2 hard four. This way, if the shooter throws the hard four you lose $25 on the dc but collect $14 on the hard four, so it softens the blow. If the shooter throws an easy four then you lose both bets, but that’s why its called gambling! Now wait for shooter to seven out and collect on the dc. If the shooter is hot or throwing a lot of numbers, take some place bets or pass line with odds and stop betting the don’t come on that particular shooter. This system will allow you to consistently collect decent sized winnings on a cold or choppy table and still enables you to take advantage of a hot roll. You want to bet against a shooter making 4 consecutive passes.
You use the following progression: 10, 20, 40, 80
For example. You bet $10 on the don’t pass. The shooter makes the point, you lose $10 and for the next point you bet $20 on the don’t pass. The shooter doesn’t make the point and you win $20. $10 profit on this shooter.
If you go up to and lose the $80 bet, stop making bets and wait for the next shooter.
Maintain your bet level when and for as long as you win. Example: You win your don’t bet at the $40 level. You keep betting at this level until you lose. Start the progression over at $10 or if you are doing well, just drop down one level and start betting from there.
You can change this system to Don’t by 3 and adjust the bet amount to what you are comfortable with.24/7 solitaire card games free. First I look for a table where a player is making a don’t come bet and then they take it down off the number that was rolled. Then I ask that player if I can pay him the amount of the bet he is taking down. This way I don’t have to worry about losing the bet in the don’t come box before it gets established. The house has an 8 to 3 edge over me when I have money in the don’t come box, but once the DC is established I have the edge. 6 to 5 on the 6 & 8, 3 to 2 on the 5 & 9 and a big 2 to 1 on the 4 & 10.
I’ve had great success by playing this way. The only bad thing about playing this way is it takes time to win a small amount of money. But it’s the only way to have a little edge over the casino. KANIVATANAKUL@YAHOO.COM Lv slots login. Here is a variation and/or combination of a couple of strategies I think I saw on this site.
Lay bet the 4 and 10 for $30 each and make a $30 don’t pass bet and $2 on the yo.
Be sure the lay bets are working on the come out.
If the roll is:
2 - you win the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
3 - you win the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
12 - a push for the don’t pass bet and lose the yo.
7 - win the no 4 and no 10, lose the yo, and lose the don’t pass bet.
4 or 10 - four/ ten becomes the point and you lose the no 4/ 10 bet and the yo. Now, remove the remaining no 4/ 10 bet and take full odds on the don’t pass bet and wait for the seven.
5 thru 9 - If five, six, eight, or nine become the point you remove the no 4 and no 10 and place the five for $10, the six for $12, the eight for $12, and the field for $5, for one roll only then take down the place bets and make a $30 place bet on the point number if it has not yet been hit.
Example 1:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30 each plus the ’vig’.
$30 don’t pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 4. Lose the no 4 bet and the yo. 4 is the point.
Remove the no 10 bet and place full odds on the don’t pass bet and hope for a seven.
Example 2:
Lay the 4 and 10 for $30.
$30 on the don’t pass.
$2 on the yo.
Come out roll is a 6. Six becomes the point. You lose the yo. Now remove the no 4 and no 10 bets and place bet the 5 for $10, the 6 for $12, the 8 for $12 and the field for $5. After one roll remove the place bets and place the remaining point number for $30. You will then have a $30 don’t pass on the six and a $30 place bet on the six, a bet that can’t be lost.
DonnieWhat Is Don’t Pass In CrapsI will share a play that is about the best way you can play it and it is against all books and advise of play, as you always advised to add odds, here you only add odds to replace losses.
Rules to follow:
1. Table should be 10x’s odds or better, the higher the better. 5x’s can work but gets hairy.
2. Have your bankroll in chips, recommended $5,000.
3: Doey/don’t bet with lowest amount allowed, take double odds as if $5 bet.
4: Make 10 dc bet for first bet, increase by 5 each dc bet, except on 11-4-10-or point. If crap 2-3 leave up for double bet no add of 5.
5: If point hit, replace with same amount you had in odds on pass line.
6: Make same doey,don’t bet and same double odds bet.
7: You start adding double odds on bets after the green chip is on that number as if it was a $5 bet, on second hit you increase to three times odds and 5 times if hit again, using small martingale, you would have to keep increasing our odds.
8: At $50 dc bet you would increase at $10 each dc bet. Try it and if you have any questions I would be glad to answer them.
9: You also must control the game with the boxman, if you do not have your bets down, yell out to hold up the dice, ’I have not got my bets down yet’, as you can’t do anything until dealer pays off last result. Believe me this is important, as you can lose some important replacements.
Have fun. Its hard to do on wincraps as it takes off the bet before you can see what you had on it, at the crap table you have enough time to see it. I use beat the house the older version, not the real old one though as that only 2x’s odds. One more thing, on a real long roll and if you had a higher bankroll to start you would have to make a 100 do and 100 don’t and $4 12 to get the odds. You might need mostly on a 5x’s table, 100 never and 20 prob never but could happen on 10x’s table. What’s good about this is that you are only loaning out the money and when a 7 shows, which it will , it all come back.
LOUDon’t Pass
Here’s my method of play:
Go to a table with very few people (looking for a cold table).
Make a DP bet then lay single odds. Keep betting on that shooter until he:
a) makes his point 2 times without throwing any naturals (7 or 11)
b) or rolls a natural, followed by any combination of 2 more naturals or 2 more points (for a total of 3 losses).
The idea is to stop betting on a shooter wants he starts beating you, then wait for the next shooter.
I use $5 base bets. Once I’ve won over $30, I increase my bets. If I lose $50, I leave or switch tables.
I’ve had great success with this method of play.
Comments are welcome.
Unknown contributorMy buddy and I have been playing a don’t pass martingale and been doing very well.
It is so simple to do this, the first time my buddy gets the dice I place a $5 DP if he beats me I’m done with him until he finishes that roll, then when the dice come back around to him for the 2nd time that day i simply place a $10 DP, if he beats me, I wait for him to finish that role, then when he gets the dice for the 3rd time that day I place a $20 DP.
I do this progression till I clear all previous bets plus a $5 winner then start over.
I’ve never been past the 6TH level, I will go 8 levels if necessary so it takes $1280 bankroll. the bets are as follows: $5, $10, $20, $40, $80, $160, $320, $640 Most people don’t have the patients to play this, But I do !!!!!
The key to this, that you can’t put a math equation to the human factor that every shooter will have some great rolls and maybe make 8 or 9 passes on that one hot shoot, but to make a one pass eight different times you get the dice, PLEASE, PLEASE !!!!! I’ve never seen it done.
I’ve got 3 other buddies that go to the casino with us once in awhile and they have not been able to run me out of eight levels either.
Everybody has a few good rolls and maybe one great roll then they have those set the point and 7 OUT and I’m in HEAVEN cause I’VE cleared and LIFE is GREAT.
I’ve read several books about the martingale and they hate it, but they play consecutive rolls and I’ve seen 14 passes by the same shooter then the next time he got the dice GUESS what ?? SET the point 7 OUT HA-HA-HA I clear and start over.
The main key to this is having a team of buddies who will not leave the table till everyone is cleared.
You can’t play the guy down at the end of the table in the red hat because he might beat you 2 or 3 times then leave the table so you have no chance to clear the bet on him.
GOOD LUCK TED
P.S. I don’t need LUCK with this style of play just the human factor or dynamics of the game as I call it.
This is probably the fastest way to work a progressive/regressive system.
On the first shooter you would bet $25 on the don’t pass with a $50 no 4 or no 10.
If the shooter throws a 7 on the come out, you lose the DP but win the lay bet. The lay bet is your hedge and acts as odds for your DP.
If he makes the point before a 7 out, you lose your DP but still have the lay bet working.
If he sevens out early, you win both bets.
2nd player, $30 on DP, $60 on no 4. Same idea.
3rd player, $40 on DP, $80 on no 4.
4th player, go back to the beginning and start again.
If you win 2 series like this, start your 3rd with a $30 DP and a $60 no 4, then a $40 DP and a $80 no 4, and finally a $50 DP and a $100 no 4.
Some casinos won’t allow a $50 no 4 or 10. You may have to put down $40 or $60.
There are many good ’ladder’ systems for the pass side using place bets, but for most of them to work and show a consistent profit throughout a session, each player would have to hold the dice a minimum of 15 minutes. It’s not going to happen.
You can hedge further by using Larry Freiwald’s Super Seven Parlay or make an E.T. bet.
7cumeleven@outlookexpress.Grafstein variation
This is a variation on GRAFSTEINS. Wait for the shooter to make 3 to 5 tosses then LAY a number but never the 4 or 10 .They have a habit of showing up on cold tables along with a lot of other crap. Then make a DC bet. This can be reversed make the DC 1st then the LAY. After the point is set place any 2 box numbers based on most seen repeaters. Give the shooter 3 to 5 tosses take down your place bets and start your LAY BET/DC action. I have averaged $150. to $400. a day using these 2 methods starting with a $500. buy in. You have to be attuned to the game and get a feel for the table to be able to decide when to up your LAY BET/DC bet amounts so don’t just dive in. Always at a table with dealers waiting for shooters. Open the table yourself and shoot for as long as you are the only player. When others join the game pass the dice I no longer shoot with other players at the table. Anyone who has a basic understanding of the game, already is well versed in the true odds of any number being thrown and knows that short term streaks happen all the time. But the astute “don’t side” gambler also does not worry about the short term streaks and knows that in time that the roll frequencies will fall in line with the “laws of probability” that the game is based upon. This approach to winning at craps relies on that probability and will work if patience and discipline is utilized a very high percentage of the time.
The object of this approach is to win $100 per shooter.
All bets will be on the “Don’t Pass Line”.
Each shooter will be given 4 chances against your bet.
A series of bets will be made per shooter starting with a $100 don’t pass bet. If you lose it, then you increase the bet to $200. If that loses, then to $400 and finally to $800. If at any point you win any of these bets, then you will have won all your losses back plus $100 and you begin again with the next shooter. Also included in this series is the fact that the come out roll gives the shooter a chance to win automatically by throwing a seven, (6 ways) or a 11, (2 ways) with only a 2, (1 way) and a 3, (2 ways), that wil
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